AMAT - Possible ER and Long-Term Player

So I came upon $AMAT whilst browsing my list of tech stocks that had similar movement to $NVDA and that were more aligned with the production, research, and development side of things.

They caught my eye specifically because of the $4B EPIC Center they are building in Silicon Valley to collaborate with some pretty great companies, which include: AMD ($AMD), NVIDIA ($NVDA), INTEL ($INTC), IBM ($IBM), MICRON ($MU), SAMSUNG, TSMC ($TSM), and Western Digital ($WDC).

Apparently AMAT has a fairly strong relationship with several of these, and many of their top officers (including CEOs) helped make announcement videos for this project, going so far as to boast about the accomplishments of AMAT and how long some of them have worked together (15 years with Micron apparently!)

Without further adieu, here’s a bit about them:

What they do:

Provide manufacturing equipment, services, and software to the semiconductor, visual display, and related industries. Customers include manufacturers of semiconductor wafers and chips, liquid crystal and organic light-emitting diode (OLED) displays, and other electronic devices.

Where they conduct business:

The majority of their manufacturing takes place in Taiwan, S. Korea, and Singapore, with a handful of facilities between the US and Europe (specifically Germany and Greece)

Their research and development (R&D) main hub is in Singapore, but they also have several facilities across the US, namely in California and states near their university partners like MIT, ASU, and UT Austin to name a few.

So how is this an ER Play?

I went back to 2018 and looked at the Daily and Hourly charts for AMAT around ER time. The majority, with about 6-ish exceptions (out of 22) had a very good buying opportunity exactly 7 days prior to their ER between 1:30pm and 2:30pm for calls on the lead-up to their actual date of ER, with the peak stock price being the day before or day of by 1:30pm EST.

Next ER is August 17th, AH, and I plan to put this to the test.

What’s to like, long-term:

Aside from the mentions of AI and their obvious role in that niche, given they are a semiconductor manufacturer and have developed several key technologies in the field that are used by (according to the same videos I linked above) many other chip and part makers as seemingly industry standard, they are specifically looking to advance the processes and equipment used in these fields and seem to be uniquely positioned to do so, given their partnerships and roles in not only semiconductors but a lot of the other complimentary pieces, such as packaging and non-EUV (called Sculpta) patterning.

Their service revenue is 60% subscription based with a +90% renewal rate (according to their CEO during their most recent ER). So clearly their customers like what they have to offer.

I’m including their recent ER transcript and slideshow for your browsing pleasure, but overall it seems very positive on outlook. They have also crushed the last 4 ERs from an EPS standpoint, but they did lower guidance a bit in terms of revenues and EPS for next ER. In terms of stock value, it’s estimated intrinsic value is between $117 and $221. The fair value estimates I’ve seen range between $120 and $162, but there are some outliers going higher into the $200 area.

I will also add that their biggest potential pitfall is actually, to me, a selling point in that they are not very specialized given semiconductors aren’t exclusively their bread and butter. They have stiff competition on all fronts, but their willingness to diversify their approach and even go so far as to setup a center to collaborate with partners, hopefuls, and even some competitors is impressive to me. Shows they are really willing to push the envelope for the sake of better R&D output, which historically they have then put into action with their products in a profitable way.

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This article touches on a lot of the points I mentioned and also touches on the potential for “muted” performance due to lower demand in the memory market and slower sales growth estimate going into this next quarter.

News from a couple of days ago, stock is reacting nicely.

I went ahead and opened a small position yesterday, did not call it out as it’s a bit of a gamble given how early we are from my intended ER play portion of this, but it had a nice dip so I took advantage. Waiting to add more.

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Today is the day! Just as expected, AMAT has been on a downturn today. I’ve gone ahead and started a position, 150c 8/18 @ 2.03 x2 for now, as we may see a bit lower as we get closer to 2:00pm. The sweet spot seemed to be between 1:30pm and 2:30pm from all the data I analyzed, but I don’t mind averaging down a little if necessary, since ideally we’ll get to see the 1.6-ish level per contract by 2:30pm. If it doesn’t get that low, I’m still comfortable with my current position and I will add more near that time. For confirmation that the play is still reliable, I will look for at least a 3% increase in stock price over the next few trading days, if this fails then I will likely abandon the majority of the position as green as I can and leave a few runners for the day of ER.

Either way, come ER day, the best time to sell is usually between 11am and 12pm, so I plan to be fully out by then with MAYBE a single runner for the following day if news seems good.

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Looking like it’s trying to fill in that gap up from 7/26 to 7/27. I’m back out of this for the moment but could be a buying opportunity for this play if it keeps it’s bounce off of 140 today

Sorry gang, had a busy morning but I have taken this dip as a good spot to average down on my position. This is the last time I will be averaging down, since, like I mentioned, we’re really looking for it to start slowly walking up over the next couple of trading days. If by Tuesday afternoon we haven’t seen it up roughly 3% from where it was yesterday around 2pm (146/147), I will be looking to close most of the position for a small loss or profit.

Otherwise, all goes well, my PT is around 150-152 where I will sell enough to at least cover costs, and then sell the rest as we go along on ER.

Great write up, Ranger! After going through your post, I went back and looked at the charts for the 7 day period preceding the earnings release and noticed it mostly followed SPY except for 2 outliers in the past 13 earnings releases as shown in the screencaps. The company itself is great and their diversification has helped them over the past few years. I think long term its a very good investment and I have some shares which I have been holding for a while.

Their major competitors are LAM Research($LRCX), $KLAC and ASML. All of these companies reported good earnings end of July and that’s when there was a spike in all Semiconductor equipment manufacturers including AMAT. Looks like AMAT has gapped down from the spike and lost those gains over the past week. I believe they will report good earnings given how their competitors performed over the last quarter.

The news about the ban on US investment in China in the semiconductor industry is causing the downward pressure on chip stocks at the moment, so this runup to ER might not be as profitable? The forward guidance and the earnings call would be interesting , since they’ll need to address this.

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Hindsight, I probably jumped the gun on my position yesterday due to $138 truly being the first chance of filling the fvg I mentioned. Best entries were at the closing bell yesterday (obviously) and patience on the trade would’ve paid off better. This is a peculiar spot because it “should” bounce next week heading into earnings but we also had the semiconductor news as <@660738089186099220> pointed out and we could easily see it range in low 140s. Depending how we open on Monday I’m also considering a put to hedge my new current position as I’m down 20% on the 145Cs but net -10% or so on the overall play if you factor in the 15% gains I locked in from the 150Cs earlier in the week. Long term bullish, but short term uncertainty at the moment. (Keep in mind I’m only using a small portion of my port on this play since at the end of the day it’s still a gamble as <@889849212915843093> kindly reminded <:cheers:848949090771009536> )

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Well thought out and balanced comment <@754166116850466837> .

Held that 137 support area, which is good. Taking into account overall market factors, this dip likely would have been a better entry but alas, my crystal ball wasn’t working Friday <:kekw:923797443471081503>

Still sticking to the plan, if I don’t see 140’s by tomorrow afternoon, I will be much less enthusiastic about the ER play portion, but given all the data we have and considering competitor performance, as <@660738089186099220> pointed out, this should still be a good ER for AMAT. Long-term, I’m still bullish on the company. Here’s to still making some decent profit <:pepepray:930324508018106448>

We’ve made a decent recovery since Friday’s shenanigans, but still have a bit to go by this afternoon. Not looking super great, especially given all the negative news floating around the market, but if we can make it closer to $145 area by close, I’ll hold.

Again, this ER play is not a big part of my overall portfolio, and it shouldn’t be of yours either. If you got in during the dip, you should be sitting pretty this morning. We’ll see how the rest of today goes! <:pepepray:930324508018106448>

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Well, although we regained $140 support area, we have unfortunately not gone back up much further than that or met the initial criteria I had set out for ~3% gain from Thursday to this afternoon. Although a big part of me wants to mention how the huge dip and news got in the way, how ER should still be good, and various other excuses, they are ultimately just that. Excuses to hold. I try to stick to my plan when trading to avoid catastrophic loses. Luckily it’s a small position, but still hurts to close early.

Anyone in this play with me, I will suggest you do the same or, if so inclined, keep your 1 contract till ER. I myself will be closing most within the next few minutes, but holding 1 till ER to at least not totally miss out in the event that ER does run this up as I estimated. Thanks for playing, till next time <:pepepray:930324508018106448>

Does AMAT business get somewhat affected by TSM?

Sort of, TSM gets equipment from AMAT.

Modest increase in outlook for Q4, as we expected they beat for Q3 but we’ll see what the market thinks soon. Had a nice green candle up, but seems to have topped out at $143. We’ll see how it goes as the call happens and what tomorrow brings.

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