Stagflation leading to Recession - The Kodiak Bear Thesis

Maverick conducts a review on the recent FOMC Jpow conference here.

Below are points/notes from the video that I think the forum or TF haven’t quite covered yet.

When will the rate hikes stop? 3 conditions.

Jerome Powell gave 3 conditions to allow for the pausing of rate hikes:

  1. Growth moving down.
  2. Unemployment going up.
  3. Inflation moving down towards 2%.

These 3 ingredients = recession. JPow is looking for a recession.

Most Important Piece of Economic Data for JPow: Core PCE

JPow stated that the main incentive for aggressive front loading of rate hikes is the core PCE, not the CPI, not the PPI. The inflation target is 2%. Currently the core PCE at a 3, 6 and 12 month trailing annualized basis is at 4.8%, 4.5% and 4.8% accordingly.

Think back to Volcker. This means the fed funds rate needs to be at least 5% to meaningfully drive down core PCE. We are now at 3.25%, which means we have 175 bps of rate hikes to come.

The 2Y yield is another indicator of more rate hikes. The 2Y is above 4% right now. The fed is always chasing the bond yield. For example, soon we will see 5% 2Y yield and the fed funds rate will be 4ish%, then a 5.5% 2Y yield and fed funds rate of 5%, etc.

In order to show that the fed is in charge, they would need to immediately hike rates to 5% above the 2Y yield, above the core PCE.

Was there anything at all for the bulls and doves? Yes-ish.

  • JPow is seeing some evidence of the beginning of supply chain restoration.
  • Commodities peaking.
  • After initially playing down the possibility of a soft landing near the start of the conference, JPow shifted tone to say that they are keeping an open mind on the possibility of a soft landing achieved by job openings coming down without unemployment rising too high.
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